Hudson's theorem fails for the SU(1,1) discrete series

Hudson's theorem states that a pure state of a bosonic mode has a non-negative Wigner function if and only if it is Gaussian. It underwrites the reading of Wigner negativity as a faithful signature of pure-state non-classicality. We show the statement has no analogue on curved phase space. For the positive discrete series of $SU(1,1)$, realised on the upper sheet of a two-sheeted hyperboloid, the Wigner-positive pure states form a strictly larger set than the Perelomovcoherent orbit. Superpositions of the lowest weight state with the first excited state stay positive up to a mixing angle of $24.93^\\circ$ at Bargmann index $k=1$, and the admissible set has positive volume, with a maximal width that is not attained in the two-state direction. We show analytically that the quadratic form controlling positivity degenerates in the far field onto a single mixing angle. That degeneracy bounds the window by $\\arctan(1/\\sqrt{2k})$ and leaves the threshold itself fixed at intermediate hyperbolic distance.

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Zenodo (CERN European Organization for Nuclear Research)
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2026-09-04
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https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.22310147
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Quantum chaos and dynamical systems
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Hudson's theorem fails for the SU(1,1) discrete series

Chon‐Fai Kam
Zenodo (CERN European Organization for Nuclear Research)
Quantum chaos and dynamical systems
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Hudson's theorem fails for the SU(1,1) discrete series

Chon‐Fai Kam
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Abstract

Hudson's theorem states that a pure state of a bosonic mode has a non-negative Wigner function if and only if it is Gaussian. It underwrites the reading of Wigner negativity as a faithful signature of pure-state non-classicality. We show the statement has no analogue on curved phase space. For the positive discrete series of $SU(1,1)$, realised on the upper sheet of a two-sheeted hyperboloid, the Wigner-positive pure states form a strictly larger set than the Perelomovcoherent orbit. Superpositions of the lowest weight state with the first excited state stay positive up to a mixing angle of $24.93^\circ$ at Bargmann index $k=1$, and the admissible set has positive volume, with a maximal width that is not attained in the two-state direction. We show analytically that the quadratic form controlling positivity degenerates in the far field onto a single mixing angle. That degeneracy bounds the window by $\arctan(1/\sqrt{2k})$ and leaves the threshold itself fixed at intermediate hyperbolic distance.

Zenodo (CERN European Organization for Nuclear Research)
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