First Fall Is Not Solving: An Exact Degree Classification of the Quadratic Semaev–Weil Family

Does the first fall degree really predict the solving degree of the Weil-restricted Semaev systems used in elliptic-curve index calculus? In P1.3, we give an exact degree classification for the quadratic Semaev–Weil family, prove an unconditional solving-degree bound, and construct an infinite family showing that field-equation nonredundancy is not automatic. The honest conclusion: first fall is not solving. The gap between them can grow without bound—but the classification currently applies only to the n=m=2 family in odd characteristic. First Fall Is Not Solving: An Exact Degree Classification of the Quadratic Semaev–Weil Family

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Zenodo (CERN European Organization for Nuclear Research)
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2026-07-23
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https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.21507853
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Polynomial and algebraic computation
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First Fall Is Not Solving: An Exact Degree Classification of the Quadratic Semaev–Weil Family

Math Street(@math__street)
Zenodo (CERN European Organization for Nuclear Research)
Polynomial and algebraic computation
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First Fall Is Not Solving: An Exact Degree Classification of the Quadratic Semaev–Weil Family

Math Street(@math__street)
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Abstract

Does the first fall degree really predict the solving degree of the Weil-restricted Semaev systems used in elliptic-curve index calculus? In P1.3, we give an exact degree classification for the quadratic Semaev–Weil family, prove an unconditional solving-degree bound, and construct an infinite family showing that field-equation nonredundancy is not automatic. The honest conclusion: first fall is not solving. The gap between them can grow without bound—but the classification currently applies only to the n=m=2 family in odd characteristic. First Fall Is Not Solving: An Exact Degree Classification of the Quadratic Semaev–Weil Family

Zenodo (CERN European Organization for Nuclear Research)
Polynomial and algebraic computation
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