Comment on “Refined Analysis of the Nucleation Curves for Ice and Gas Hydrate Generated from the Linear Cooling Ramp Method” by Zhang et al

A new study by Zhang et al. in Langmuir (<i>Langmuir</i> 2025, 41, 37, 25146-25166; 10.1021/acs.langmuir.5c01994) compared their previously measured nucleation rates of ice and clathrate (gas) hydrates to the predictions of Classical Nucleation Theory (CNT) to probe the nature of the so-called "building unit" considered by CNT. The identity of this structural unit remains an outstanding question when using CNT as an interpretive framework. Their approach involved adjusting the entropy of dissociation of the building unit (Δ<i>s</i><sub>e</sub>) so that their nucleation rate data, <i>J</i>, were linear in the coordinates (ln <i>J</i> - Δ<i>s</i><sub>e</sub>Δ<i>T</i>/<i>kT</i> vs (1/(<i>T</i>Δ<i>T</i><sup>2</sup>)) suggested by CNT. Linearity enables the nucleation rate data to be interpreted using a single pair of the kinetic and thermodynamic parameters, <i>A</i> and <i>B</i>'. However, there is no reason to expect that a single pair of these parameters should characterize the nucleation sites contributing to the observed <i>J</i> over a given range of subcooling. Furthermore, Δ<i>s</i><sub>e</sub> is strongly correlated with <i>A</i> and <i>B</i>' making it difficult to independently assess the reliability of such parameters obtained by least-squares regression. Finally, in the first stage of their data analysis, Zhang et al. fit a functional form to their experimental data which biases the resulting <i>B</i>' parameters obtained by subsequent regression to values near zero. We recommend alternative, independent methods of estimating Δ<i>s</i><sub>e</sub> and treating it as a fixed quantity when analyzing measurements of the nucleation rate.

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Comment on “Refined Analysis of the Nucleation Curves for Ice and Gas Hydrate Generated from the Linear Cooling Ramp Method” by Zhang et al

Eric F. May, Nobuo Maeda, Xi Zhang, Y. Zhou et al.
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Methane Hydrates and Related Phenomena
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Comment on “Refined Analysis of the Nucleation Curves for Ice and Gas Hydrate Generated from the Linear Cooling Ramp Method” by Zhang et al

Eric F. May, Nobuo Maeda, Xi Zhang, Y. Zhou, Mark T. J. Barwood
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A new study by Zhang et al. in Langmuir (<i>Langmuir</i> 2025, 41, 37, 25146-25166; 10.1021/acs.langmuir.5c01994) compared their previously measured nucleation rates of ice and clathrate (gas) hydrates to the predictions of Classical Nucleation Theory (CNT) to probe the nature of the so-called "building unit" considered by CNT. The identity of this structural unit remains an outstanding question when using CNT as an interpretive framework. Their approach involved adjusting the entropy of dissociation of the building unit (Δ<i>s</i><sub>e</sub>) so that their nucleation rate data, <i>J</i>, were linear in the coordinates (ln <i>J</i> - Δ<i>s</i><sub>e</sub>Δ<i>T</i>/<i>kT</i> vs (1/(<i>T</i>Δ<i>T</i><sup>2</sup>)) suggested by CNT. Linearity enables the nucleation rate data to be interpreted using a single pair of the kinetic and thermodynamic parameters, <i>A</i> and <i>B</i>'. However, there is no reason to expect that a single pair of these parameters should characterize the nucleation sites contributing to the observed <i>J</i> over a given range of subcooling. Furthermore, Δ<i>s</i><sub>e</sub> is strongly correlated with <i>A</i> and <i>B</i>' making it difficult to independently assess the reliability of such parameters obtained by least-squares regression. Finally, in the first stage of their data analysis, Zhang et al. fit a functional form to their experimental data which biases the resulting <i>B</i>' parameters obtained by subsequent regression to values near zero. We recommend alternative, independent methods of estimating Δ<i>s</i><sub>e</sub> and treating it as a fixed quantity when analyzing measurements of the nucleation rate.

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