Absolute entropy and the observer’s no-boundary state

A bstract We investigate the no-boundary proposal for closed universes with an observer. We argue that the observer’s no-boundary state is the identity operator on the physical Hilbert space, i.e., the maximum entropy state and show this explicitly in Jackiw-Teitelboim gravity. Geometrically, the no-boundary state is a bra-ket wormhole. Expectation values in the no-boundary state provide a trace for the observer’s algebra, which allows one to define von Neumann entropy for observers in different universes as the relative entropy with respect to the no-boundary state. This result is consistent with all previously discussed cases of traces for invariantly defined regions.

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Journal of High Energy Physics
Published
2025-11-19
DOI
https://doi.org/10.1007/jhep11(2025)113
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4
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Noncommutative and Quantum Gravity Theories
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Absolute entropy and the observer’s no-boundary state

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Abstract

A bstract We investigate the no-boundary proposal for closed universes with an observer. We argue that the observer’s no-boundary state is the identity operator on the physical Hilbert space, i.e., the maximum entropy state and show this explicitly in Jackiw-Teitelboim gravity. Geometrically, the no-boundary state is a bra-ket wormhole. Expectation values in the no-boundary state provide a trace for the observer’s algebra, which allows one to define von Neumann entropy for observers in different universes as the relative entropy with respect to the no-boundary state. This result is consistent with all previously discussed cases of traces for invariantly defined regions.

Journal of High Energy PhysicsVol. 2025(11)
Princeton University (US), Institute for Advanced Study (US)
National Science Foundation, U.S. Department of Energy, Ambrose Monell Foundation
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