On the Descriptive Complexity of Groups without Abelian Normal Subgroups

In this paper, we explore the descriptive complexity theory of finite groups by examining the power of the second Ehrenfeucht--Fraïssé bijective pebble game in Hella's (Ann. Pure Appl. Log., 1989) hierarchy. This is a Spoiler--Duplicator game in which Spoiler can place up to two pebbles each round. While it trivially solves graph isomorphism, it may be nontrivial for finite groups, and other ternary relational structures. We first provide a novel generalization of Weisfeiler--Leman (WL) coloring, which we call 2-ary WL. We then show that 2-ary WL is equivalent to the second Ehrenfeucht--Fraïssé bijective pebble game in Hella's hierarchy. Our main result is that, in the pebble game characterization, only $O(1)$ pebbles and $O(1)$ rounds are sufficient to identify all groups without Abelian normal subgroups (a class of groups for which isomorphism testing is known to be in $\mathsf{P}$; Babai, Codenotti, & Qiao, ICALP 2012). We actually show that $7$ pebbles and $7$ rounds suffice. In particular, we show that within the first few rounds, Spoiler can force Duplicator to select an isomorphism between two such groups at each subsequent round. By Hella's results (ibid.), this is equivalent to saying that these groups are identified by formulas in first-order logic with generalized 2-ary quantifiers, using only $7$ variables and $7$ quantifier depth.

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Logical Methods in Computer Science
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2025-11-07
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https://doi.org/10.46298/lmcs-21(4:20)2025
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Advanced Graph Theory Research
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On the Descriptive Complexity of Groups without Abelian Normal Subgroups

Michael Levet, Joshua A. Grochow
Logical Methods in Computer Science
Advanced Graph Theory Research
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On the Descriptive Complexity of Groups without Abelian Normal Subgroups

Michael Levet, Joshua A. Grochow
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Abstract

In this paper, we explore the descriptive complexity theory of finite groups by examining the power of the second Ehrenfeucht--Fraïssé bijective pebble game in Hella's (Ann. Pure Appl. Log., 1989) hierarchy. This is a Spoiler--Duplicator game in which Spoiler can place up to two pebbles each round. While it trivially solves graph isomorphism, it may be nontrivial for finite groups, and other ternary relational structures. We first provide a novel generalization of Weisfeiler--Leman (WL) coloring, which we call 2-ary WL. We then show that 2-ary WL is equivalent to the second Ehrenfeucht--Fraïssé bijective pebble game in Hella's hierarchy. Our main result is that, in the pebble game characterization, only $O(1)$ pebbles and $O(1)$ rounds are sufficient to identify all groups without Abelian normal subgroups (a class of groups for which isomorphism testing is known to be in $\mathsf{P}$; Babai, Codenotti, & Qiao, ICALP 2012). We actually show that $7$ pebbles and $7$ rounds suffice. In particular, we show that within the first few rounds, Spoiler can force Duplicator to select an isomorphism between two such groups at each subsequent round. By Hella's results (ibid.), this is equivalent to saying that these groups are identified by formulas in first-order logic with generalized 2-ary quantifiers, using only $7$ variables and $7$ quantifier depth.

Logical Methods in Computer ScienceVol. Volume 21, Issue 4
National Science Foundation, Directorate for Computer and Information Science and Engineering, University of Colorado Boulder
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Advanced Graph Theory Research
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