Joins of Closed Sublocales are not Always A Coframe

Abstract Given a locale L , the ordered collection $$\textsf{S}_c(L)$$ <mml:math xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"> <mml:mrow> <mml:msub> <mml:mi>S</mml:mi> <mml:mi>c</mml:mi> </mml:msub> <mml:mrow> <mml:mo>(</mml:mo> <mml:mi>L</mml:mi> <mml:mo>)</mml:mo> </mml:mrow> </mml:mrow> </mml:math> of joins of closed sublocales forms a frame—somewhat unexpectedly, as it is naturally embedded in the coframe of all sublocales of L , where by coframe we mean the order-theoretic dual of a frame. This construction has attracted attention in point-free topology: as a maximal essential extension in the category of frames, for its (non-)functorial properties, its relation to canonical extensions and exact filters of frames, etc. A central open question of the theory, posed by Picado, Pultr, and Tozzi in 2019, asked whether $$\textsf{S}_c(L)$$ <mml:math xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"> <mml:mrow> <mml:msub> <mml:mi>S</mml:mi> <mml:mi>c</mml:mi> </mml:msub> <mml:mrow> <mml:mo>(</mml:mo> <mml:mi>L</mml:mi> <mml:mo>)</mml:mo> </mml:mrow> </mml:mrow> </mml:math> is always a coframe, or whether there exists a locale for which this fails. In this paper, we resolve this question in the negative by constructing a locale L such that $$\textsf{S}_c(L)$$ <mml:math xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"> <mml:mrow> <mml:msub> <mml:mi>S</mml:mi> <mml:mi>c</mml:mi> </mml:msub> <mml:mrow> <mml:mo>(</mml:mo> <mml:mi>L</mml:mi> <mml:mo>)</mml:mo> </mml:mrow> </mml:mrow> </mml:math> is not a coframe. The main challenge in such question lies in the difficulty of understanding exact infima in $$\textsf{S}_c(L)$$ <mml:math xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"> <mml:mrow> <mml:msub> <mml:mi>S</mml:mi> <mml:mi>c</mml:mi> </mml:msub> <mml:mrow> <mml:mo>(</mml:mo> <mml:mi>L</mml:mi> <mml:mo>)</mml:mo> </mml:mrow> </mml:mrow> </mml:math> ; we circumvent this by analysing a certain separation property satisfied by $$\textsf{S}_c(L)$$ <mml:math xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"> <mml:mrow> <mml:msub> <mml:mi>S</mml:mi> <mml:mi>c</mml:mi> </mml:msub> <mml:mrow> <mml:mo>(</mml:mo> <mml:mi>L</mml:mi> <mml:mo>)</mml:mo> </mml:mrow> </mml:mrow> </mml:math> .

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Joins of Closed Sublocales are not Always A Coframe

Igor Arrieta
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Joins of Closed Sublocales are not Always A Coframe

Igor Arrieta
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Abstract Given a locale L , the ordered collection $$\textsf{S}_c(L)$$ <mml:math xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"> <mml:mrow> <mml:msub> <mml:mi>S</mml:mi> <mml:mi>c</mml:mi> </mml:msub> <mml:mrow> <mml:mo>(</mml:mo> <mml:mi>L</mml:mi> <mml:mo>)</mml:mo> </mml:mrow> </mml:mrow> </mml:math> of joins of closed sublocales forms a frame—somewhat unexpectedly, as it is naturally embedded in the coframe of all sublocales of L , where by coframe we mean the order-theoretic dual of a frame. This construction has attracted attention in point-free topology: as a maximal essential extension in the category of frames, for its (non-)functorial properties, its relation to canonical extensions and exact filters of frames, etc. A central open question of the theory, posed by Picado, Pultr, and Tozzi in 2019, asked whether $$\textsf{S}_c(L)$$ <mml:math xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"> <mml:mrow> <mml:msub> <mml:mi>S</mml:mi> <mml:mi>c</mml:mi> </mml:msub> <mml:mrow> <mml:mo>(</mml:mo> <mml:mi>L</mml:mi> <mml:mo>)</mml:mo> </mml:mrow> </mml:mrow> </mml:math> is always a coframe, or whether there exists a locale for which this fails. In this paper, we resolve this question in the negative by constructing a locale L such that $$\textsf{S}_c(L)$$ <mml:math xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"> <mml:mrow> <mml:msub> <mml:mi>S</mml:mi> <mml:mi>c</mml:mi> </mml:msub> <mml:mrow> <mml:mo>(</mml:mo> <mml:mi>L</mml:mi> <mml:mo>)</mml:mo> </mml:mrow> </mml:mrow> </mml:math> is not a coframe. The main challenge in such question lies in the difficulty of understanding exact infima in $$\textsf{S}_c(L)$$ <mml:math xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"> <mml:mrow> <mml:msub> <mml:mi>S</mml:mi> <mml:mi>c</mml:mi> </mml:msub> <mml:mrow> <mml:mo>(</mml:mo> <mml:mi>L</mml:mi> <mml:mo>)</mml:mo> </mml:mrow> </mml:mrow> </mml:math> ; we circumvent this by analysing a certain separation property satisfied by $$\textsf{S}_c(L)$$ <mml:math xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"> <mml:mrow> <mml:msub> <mml:mi>S</mml:mi> <mml:mi>c</mml:mi> </mml:msub> <mml:mrow> <mml:mo>(</mml:mo> <mml:mi>L</mml:mi> <mml:mo>)</mml:mo> </mml:mrow> </mml:mrow> </mml:math> .

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University of the Basque Country (ES)
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