The Forgotten Torah and the Formation of the Talmudic Subject

The account of the fetus learning the Torah in its mother’s womb, forgetting it and reacquiring it (b. Niddah 30b) has often been compared to Plato’s doctrine of recollection or anamnesis. This essay argues that such a comparison is misguided, as the Talmudic story does not include the recollection of the forgotten Torah, nor does it address the philosophical difficulties that inform Plato’s doctrine, which arise from a commitment to a two-world ontology. Indeed, the story may be seen as an example of the general absence of a transcendent realm in the Talmud. In Plato’s stead, I argue that Lacan’s formation of the subject offers a more fruitful comparison, and that the Torah-learning fetus may be interpreted as an attempt to overcome the Lacanian moments of alienation that result in humanity’s tragic fate.

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Religions
Published
2025-08-28
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https://doi.org/10.3390/rel16091118
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Medieval and Classical Philosophy
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Field-Weighted Citation Impact
17.27

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The Forgotten Torah and the Formation of the Talmudic Subject

Azzan Yadin‐Israel
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Religions
Medieval and Classical Philosophy
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The Forgotten Torah and the Formation of the Talmudic Subject

Azzan Yadin‐Israel
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Abstract

The account of the fetus learning the Torah in its mother’s womb, forgetting it and reacquiring it (b. Niddah 30b) has often been compared to Plato’s doctrine of recollection or anamnesis. This essay argues that such a comparison is misguided, as the Talmudic story does not include the recollection of the forgotten Torah, nor does it address the philosophical difficulties that inform Plato’s doctrine, which arise from a commitment to a two-world ontology. Indeed, the story may be seen as an example of the general absence of a transcendent realm in the Talmud. In Plato’s stead, I argue that Lacan’s formation of the subject offers a more fruitful comparison, and that the Torah-learning fetus may be interpreted as an attempt to overcome the Lacanian moments of alienation that result in humanity’s tragic fate.

ReligionsVol. 16(9)
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey (US), Polish Institute of Arts and Sciences of America (US)
Bar-Ilan University
Openalex Percentile: Top 2%
Medieval and Classical Philosophy
17.27
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