A healthier stochastic semiclassical gravity: world without Schrödinger cats

Abstract Semiclassical gravity couples classical gravity to the quantized matter in meanfield approximation. The meanfield coupling is problematic for two reasons. First, it ignores the quantum fluctuation of matter distribution. Second, it violates the linearity of the quantum dynamics. The first problem can be be mitigated by allowing stochastic fluctuations of the geometry but the second problem lies deep in quantum foundations. Restoration of quantum linearity requires a conceptual approach to hybrid classical-quantum coupling. Studies of the measurement problem and the quantum-classical transition point the way to a solution. It is based on a postulated mechanism of spontaneous quantum monitoring plus feedback. This approach eliminates Schrödinger cat states, takes quantum fluctuations into the account, and restores the linearity of quantum dynamics. Such conceptionally ’healthier’ semiclassical theory is captivating, exists in the Newtonian limit, but its relativistic covariance hits a wall. Here we will briefly recapitulate the concept and its realization in the nonrelativistic limit. We emphasize that the long-known obstacles to the relativistic extension lie in quantum foundations.

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General Relativity and Gravitation
Published
2025-04-01
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https://doi.org/10.1007/s10714-025-03396-z
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Quantum Mechanics and Applications
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A healthier stochastic semiclassical gravity: world without Schrödinger cats

Lajos Diósi
General Relativity and Gravitation
Quantum Mechanics and Applications
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A healthier stochastic semiclassical gravity: world without Schrödinger cats

Lajos Diósi
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Abstract

Abstract Semiclassical gravity couples classical gravity to the quantized matter in meanfield approximation. The meanfield coupling is problematic for two reasons. First, it ignores the quantum fluctuation of matter distribution. Second, it violates the linearity of the quantum dynamics. The first problem can be be mitigated by allowing stochastic fluctuations of the geometry but the second problem lies deep in quantum foundations. Restoration of quantum linearity requires a conceptual approach to hybrid classical-quantum coupling. Studies of the measurement problem and the quantum-classical transition point the way to a solution. It is based on a postulated mechanism of spontaneous quantum monitoring plus feedback. This approach eliminates Schrödinger cat states, takes quantum fluctuations into the account, and restores the linearity of quantum dynamics. Such conceptionally ’healthier’ semiclassical theory is captivating, exists in the Newtonian limit, but its relativistic covariance hits a wall. Here we will briefly recapitulate the concept and its realization in the nonrelativistic limit. We emphasize that the long-known obstacles to the relativistic extension lie in quantum foundations.

General Relativity and GravitationVol. 57(4)
Eötvös Loránd University (HU), HUN-REN Wigner Research Centre for Physics (HU)
John Templeton Foundation, European Commission, Wigner Fizikai Kutatóközpont, Magyar Tudományos Akadémia, National Research, Development and Innovation Office
Openalex Percentile: Top 95%
Quantum Mechanics and Applications
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